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By: systempuntoout

Update the Joel Test with the thirteenth point: 13. Do you have a transparent and robust way to pay like Stack Exchange?

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By: Nick

You obviously can’t go wrong with a document which has unicorns in it.

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By: Alejandro

@Hemal: One reason firms may keep wages a secret is because they can then perform wage discrimination and earn more money. If Alice and Bob are equally productive but Bob is willing to work for $5,000...

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By: AviD

One skill I find noticeably missing, is Security. A ridiculously fast, brilliant programmer, who refuses to consider arcane things like SQL Injection or Cross site scripting, will be creating a...

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By: Pete Samuel

Haha, I loved the magic unicorn at the bottom of the document. Great philosophy at your company +1

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By: Jim

The financial services industry skews the rates incredibly. Software jobs in financial services pay *significantly* more than other industries.

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By: Mike

The simple fact is that money talks. If you pay a developer more than your competitors then you’ll not only land them, but retain them. Yes, work environment and relationships with the company are very...

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By: ck

And how much should you pay managers?

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By: Nifle

This is gold IMO: “Our compensation is not based on how well you negotiate or how often you ask for raises—it’s based on a repeatable predictable system”

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By: Andy

@AviD: Great idea. I dunno if they actually consider this in any of their levels (possibly under web programming or programming tools) but if I were writing one of these, I would definitely include it...

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By: Andy

P.S. By “Time spent programming before graduation”, I assume we’re actually talking about “time spent programming before a full-time, professional job”. If that’s not the case, then you can disregard.

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By: Drummer

Way to get horizontal scrollbar on 1024×768 resolution in Firefox 5. Does nobody test their designs anymore?

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By: Joel Spolsky

@Lisha: The rule that programming time before graduating college does not count as “full time experience” is meant to say that the summer you spent hacking in BASIC on your dentist’s TRS-80 doesn’t...

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By: Dirk Riehle

You write “Public Artifacts: [...] It’s a part of compensation because the better well known you are in the industry, the higher a salary you will command.” As to open source, academic research (read:...

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By: Toronto

I think the 30-200K range for C# devs is skewed to the downside, I routinely see 100/hr+ for work as mundane as SharePoint, where you’re not expected to exhibit half of the skills listed here. I’ve yet...

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By: David Thomson

@Joel: Ricardo Semler wrote about employees setting their own salary in his book Maverick http://amzn.to/mS492K. In the UK, I suspect that revealing employee salary to everyone may actually be against...

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By: Mattias Nilsson

I might be deviating a bit here, but I say: Pay me roughly the same as a similar job would pay and spend a little extra on “employee satisfaction”. Let me do interesting things, follow my own ideas to...

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By: Vamsee

Yes please keep using silly formulas. Talented ones already do something part-time that generates income for them. You will end-up with dead wood in the end with less innovation/creativity. If that...

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By: Adam Davis

I’m laughing at the, “We don’t base salary on location, but we do pay people in New York more” section. You can hide behind the term “living expense,” but the total benefits does take into account...

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By: Andy

@Toronto: I’m not sure where you are (Toronto, perhaps?) but that’s definitely not the case here. I’m in Texas, and in an area where the cost of living is, compared to somewhere like New York,...

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